Contradictions about crucifixion

Contradictions about crucifixion

WHO DIES FOR WHOM? 

Jesus Died For Our sins? 

Romans 4:25

1 Peter 3:18

1 Corinthians 15:3 

1 John 2:2


No Man Can Die For The Sins Of Another

Ezekiel 18:1-30

Deuteronomy 24:16 

Psalms 49:7

Jeremiah 31:30

1 Corinthians 3:8


We didn't inherit ANY sins from Adam because in Quran 7:23 and Quran 2:37 below, he sought God's forgiveness and God forgave him."


More about Crucification

Christian apologists insist that the only way to get rid of sin is by atonement, in this case Jesus’ death and sacrifice on the cross. 

Now when we read the Bible, just like many other Christological concepts, we find that this concept of sin only being removed by atonement, is not really biblical, and that there are indeed other ways of removing sin.


We have a mind to think with questions about crucifixion

God has bestowed us with intellect to seek the truth..

 

All I want you to do is to explain in simple logic this point which I tried to figure out but I could not..

 

How would God be so merciful and sacrifice his own son in a very brutal and humiliating way to save humanity!!! 


Wasn't he able to save humanity in a less brutal way!! 


And if he was that much merciful wouldn't his son have the priority of his mercy?! 


Is it possible that this merciful God is the same God who holds us responsible for our forefathers' sin!!! This God seems to me far away from being merciful...


Please give me a logical explanation for this!!!


A God has been slapped and spit at to  achieve salvation to humankind!!

If crucifixion was true tell me why the murderer would stop murdering people, why bad people would stop their evil acts if they will be forgiven at the end??

Is it acceptable that God shed his son's blood to make bad people do whatever they want !! How could the whole Christian beliefs be based on such a point !!!


How fair is this ? 

To rape some one 

to kill someone 

to steel 

to hurt

 to betray

And then get away with it without any punishment ???

Because you have a FREE GIFT ?! !!


Christians have undermined God in ways that no other nation has ever done. Crucifixion is one of the most wicked, heartless, vicious hoaxes ever foisted upon the mind of Christians!! !!


If in the Old Testament Jesus said 

every person is responsible for his  

own action


!! ?! how will he break the rules!!!!


Why all this story? Can't God  forgive without being unfair to his son? 


Where is the Mercy and justice?!!!!! 


Is it hard for God to forgive without blood!


Why did Jesus at that time not agree and said father, "Why did you crucify me!! ?!"


{13 Lord, see how my enemies persecute me!  

Have mercy and lift me up from the gates of death,  


14 that I may declare your praises in the gates of Daughter Zion, and rejoice in your salvation.) 


15 The nations have fallen into the pit they have dug;  

their feet are caught in the net they have hidden.} Psalm 9: 13-15!!


Every child is born with sin. 


because nature of the human is SIN


Why my friend ?!

What  mistake did the children make when they were born? This can't be understood !!!!


Christ is both God and Son of God! 


Is there any sense in what Paul said above?

 

supposed God dying for his creatures! 


This is really the most absurd thing to say. 

This God cried to God (Matthew 27:46, John 11:35) and prayed  to God (Matthew 26:39, John 11:41-42)!!!


The Son does not bear the sin of the father and the father does not carry the sin of the Son. )) (Ezekiel 18:20)


Old testament proves Jesus was raised by God

The Old Testament prophesied the raising of Jesus Christ. For Jesus used to challenge them:  


{"You will seek me and you will not find me. Where I am you cannot come.”} John 7:34.  


Jesus was certain that God was with him and that he was going to help him: { "The  LORD protects him and keeps him alive; he is called blessed in the land; you do not give  him up to the will of his enemies."} Psalm 41:2 .

The  Bible itself affirms that  

God would not give him up to his enemies:  

{" Because he has loved Me, therefore I will deliver him; I will set him securely on high, because he has known My name."} Psalm 91:14.  

These texts make it unequivocally clear that God promises Jesus to raise him and save his life.


Sins were Forgiven Before Jesus Existence ?!

(Mark 1:4-5) 

And so John the Baptist appeared in the wilderness, preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins. All of Judea, including all the people of Jerusalem, went out to see and hear John. And when they confessed their sins, he baptized them in the Jordan River. 


My Question is: When John The Baptist baptised Them in the Jordan River, were the sins of People Judea and Jerusalem Forgiven or not???


Note:

This event took place before Jesus came to Jordan..!!John The Baptist proved that NOBODY needs To die, Sins are Forgiven by Repentance from our Sins to God. What Paul said in his 1 Corinthians 15:3 that Christ died for our sins, was a big LIE!!


Forgiving the sins is restricted only to Almighty God


Isa 43:25: 

"I, I am the one who blots out your rebellious deeds for my sake; your sins I do not remember."


Isa 44:22:

"I remove the guilt of your rebellious deeds as if they were a cloud, the guilt of your sins as if they were a cloud. Come back to me, for I protect you.”"


Isa 33:22: 

"For the LORD, our ruler, the LORD, our commander, the LORD, our king — he will deliver us."


Jer 31:34: 

"“People will no longer need to teach their neighbors and relatives to know me. For all of them, from the least important to the most important, will know me,” says the LORD. “For I will forgive their sin and will no longer call to mind the wrong they have done.”"


Ezek 33:16: 

"None of the sins he has committed will be counted against him. He has done what is just and right; he will certainly live."


Mic 7:19-20: 

"You will once again have mercy on us; you will conquer our evil deeds; you will hurl our sins into the depths of the sea. 


You will be loyal to Jacob and extend your loyal love to Abraham, which you promised on oath to our ancestors in ancient times."


Salvation by following the teachings


Mt 19:16-17: 

"Now someone came up to him and said, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to gain eternal life?”


He said to him, “Why do you ask me about what is good?

There is only one who is good. 

But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”"


The contradiction of the Gospels in the story of the crucifixion of Christ

Other details in crucifixion 


Jesus survived from the Jews


Finally, we will quote here some passages from the Gospels which indicate that the Messiah was saved from being killed by the Jews, and that they did not capture him and crucify him.


“The Pharisees heard the crowd whispering such things about him. Then the chief priests and the Pharisees sent temple guards to arrest him.


Jesus said, ‘I am with you for only a short time, and then I am going to the one who sent me.


You will look for me, but you will not find me; and where I am, you cannot come’”


John 7:32-34.

“Once more Jesus said to them, ‘I am going away, and you will look for me, and you will die in your sin. Where I go, you cannot come.’


This made the Jews ask, ‘Will he kill himself? Is that why he says, “Where I go, you cannot come”?’


… So Jesus said, ‘When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me.


The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases him”


John 8:21-29.


The last thing the Messiah said to his disciples in the moments just before he was captured was:

“A time is coming and in fact has come when you will be scattered, each to your own home. You will leave me all alone. Yet I am not alone, for my Father is with me.


…. But take heart! I have overcome the world”


John 16:32-33.

The Messiah said of his enemies among the Jews that they would never be able to reach him; they would look for him but not find him; and that Allah was with him and would never leave him to face his enemies alone, and that he had overcome the world. All of this indicates that his enemies were not able to reach him or kill him or crucify him; rather Allah saved him from them, because if he had actually been crucified, it would mean that his enemies had looked for him, found him and killed him, so what he had said about these matters would have been false.


Allah the Almighty spoke the truth when He said in the Holy Quran (interpretation of the meaning):


“and their saying: ‘We slew the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary’, the Messenger of Allah - whereas in fact they had neither slain him nor crucified him but the matter was made dubious to them - and those who differed about it too were in a state of doubt! They have no definite knowledge of it, but merely follow conjecture; and they surely slew him not, but Allah raised him to Himself. Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise”

[an-Nisa' 4:157-158].

Crucifixion assembled evidence


The crucifixion of Jesus

Muslims don't deny the fact that someone went to the cross and was crucified. They only believe that it was not Jesus' peace be upon him.


Almighty God  says in Quran the holy book of Muslims :


 ...They said, “We killed the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of God.” They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but the likeness of him was put on another man (and they killed that man)...

(Quran, 4:157)

There wasn't any documentation of the event in the time of the crucifixion, rather the crucifixion was mentioned in the 4 Gospels that were written long time after the event took place and non of the scribes of the 4 Gospels personally attended the crucifixion.


All the disciples ran away so they were not eyewitnesses to the event.


56 "But this has all taken place that the writings of the prophets might be fulfilled.” Then all the disciples deserted him and fled".

Mathew 26 : 56

50 "Then everyone deserted him and fled."


Mark 14:50


Jesus never said that he is going to die or to be crucified, rather he said that he would go away.


"Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away"


John 16 :7


21 "For the Son of Man goes as it is written of him"


Mark 14 :12


When Jesus was praying before the crucifixion took place, he said that he finished his work though he was not yet crucified.


"I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do."

John 17:4


If Jesus was supposed to die on the cross for the sins of humans, why was he asking his lord to save him?


"He went a little farther on, threw himself face downward on the ground, and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, take this cup of suffering from me! Yet not what I want, but what you want." 


Mathew 26:39


God promises Jesus to raise him and save his life.


Psalm 91:14 


"Because he loves me," says the LORD, "I will rescue him; I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.


Psalm 41:2 


2" The Lord will preserve him, and keep him alive; and he shall be blessed upon the earth: and thou wilt not deliver him unto the will of his enemies."


Jesus was talking about the sign of prophet Jonah ,and compared himself to him.That means, if Jonah was alive for three days and nights in the belly of the whale, Jesus also was alive in the heart of the earth.


38" Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.


39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:


40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth".


Mathew 12 :38


Jesus himself gave his disciples a proof that he was not crucified :


"See my hands and my feet, that is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.”

Luke 24:39


"And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he asked them, "Do you have anything here to eat?"

Luke 24:41


"They gave him a piece of broiled fish"

Luke 24 :42


"and He took it and ate it in front of them."

Luke 24 :43


Jesus ,peace be upon him , is telling them that he is alive because a spirit neither has flesh and bones, nor eats.

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